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Koki IC pasirinkti?

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Tai va nusprendziau vandenini interculeri pakeisti oriniu tik nezinau kokio dydzio orini interculeri pirkti gal galit patart?
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toki kuris tepla :)
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Telpa ir 780x300x76 mm. bet manau kad jis bus per didelis :? (ta prasme turis per didelis)
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Cia yra 630x300x76, taigi norint graziai nuvesti vamzdzius, 780 nelabai tilps, nebent in/out iselimas butu ne i sonus bet link variklio.
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tilptu virinant alkunes tiesiai prie IC. IC perdideliu manau nebuna ;)
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Tilpt tai tilptu tik galvoju ar nebus per didelis lagas del didelio IC
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Toyotamk5 wrote:Tilpt tai tilptu tik galvoju ar nebus per didelis lagas del didelio IC
Nu tai paskaiciuok koks turis ir kiek tavo turbokompresorius oro perpumpuoja. Jauciu ta turi uzpildyti kokiu 1 baru slegio uzims 0,1 sekunde, cia kaip nepatyres motoristas sakau :)
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O kaip del slegio kritimo? :roll:
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Toyotamk5 wrote:O kaip del slegio kritimo? :roll:
Galima kalbeti be misliu? :)
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O gal paieska pasinaudot galima?
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Jai Waste gate pajunktas nuo isiurbimo kolektoriaus tai slegis nesiskirs o jai nuo kompresoriaus krieukles tai tada nukris! bet pasijungsi slegi nuo kolektoriaus ir problema bus isspresta! :)
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Pats slegio kritimo procesas vyks bet kokiu atveju (nesvarbu ar wg pajungtas nuo turbos ar nuo kolektoriaus). Pajungus nuo turbos, varikli pasieks mazesnis slegis nei sukuria turba - nepavojinga. Pajungus nuo kolektoriaus, varikli pasieks toks slegis koks nustatytas, bet turbina tures nuolat pusti didesni, kad kompensuotu kritima - jeigu sitas slegio skirtumas didelis (pvz jei dar koks mazas leak'as ic vamzdyne) tai turba gali greiciau uzhsilekt. Jei klystu, pataisykit ;)
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apie ka jus cia :roll:
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Sheikhas wrote:apie ka jus cia :roll:
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XR_as wrote:
Sheikhas wrote:apie ka jus cia :roll:
saldomi kunai, skysciai, dujos traukiasi, sildomi - pleciasi.
Nu tai gerai, bet oro kiekis islieka tas pats? Ar pas jus nera IAT kompensacijos?
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Cia tipo esme tame kad kuom didesnis IC, to gilesne bus turbo duobe, nes turbai reikia laiko uzpildyti papildoma turi ? Nu tai ishvis ne dek ic, idet vandens ipurshkima... Ishvis jokio lago nebus :D
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Staska wrote:Cia tipo esme tame kad kuom didesnis IC, to gilesne bus turbo duobe, nes turbai reikia laiko uzpildyti papildoma turi ? Nu tai ishvis ne dek ic, idet vandens ipurshkima... Ishvis jokio lago nebus :D
Yra dar toks dalykas kaip dazyme, kad didelis balionas duoda pastovesni slegi ;)
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Taip. kaip resiveris. Bet jei mes turim staigiai pakelt slegi, tai turim ipumpuot i ta baliona visa jo turi*slegis... ir tik po to ishejime gausim norima slegi...
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Staska wrote:Taip. kaip resiveris. Bet jei mes turim staigiai pakelt slegi, tai turim ipumpuot i ta baliona visa jo turi*slegis... ir tik po to ishejime gausim norima slegi...
Nu tai kiek cubiniu metru per/s pompuoja turbos?
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romkasponka wrote:
Staska wrote:Taip. kaip resiveris. Bet jei mes turim staigiai pakelt slegi, tai turim ipumpuot i ta baliona visa jo turi*slegis... ir tik po to ishejime gausim norima slegi...
Nu tai kiek cubiniu metru per/s pompuoja turbos?
paprastai mazhos turbos pumpina kazkur 100-200 litru per sekunde ant max flow. Esme tame, kad lagas labiausiai jauchiasi ant MIN flow :).

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kwlw wrote:
romkasponka wrote:
Staska wrote:Taip. kaip resiveris. Bet jei mes turim staigiai pakelt slegi, tai turim ipumpuot i ta baliona visa jo turi*slegis... ir tik po to ishejime gausim norima slegi...
Nu tai kiek cubiniu metru per/s pompuoja turbos?
paprastai mazhos turbos pumpina kazkur 100-200 litru per sekunde ant max flow. Esme tame, kad lagas labiausiai jauchiasi ant MIN flow :).

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ish kur 100 litru per sekunde ? pvz 2 litru variklis, su 4 taktais per viena apsisukima surija 1 litra oro.. 3000 rpm - 50 rps (50 apsisukimu per sekunde) Cia max teorinis prie slegio duobes. Ir kad butu 1 baras mums reikia pakeist ish to 50 i 100.. Bet cia vel uzdaras ratas. Turbas nesisusks greiciau, kol ne bus papildomo slegio i varikli ir daugiau ishmetimo duju. Ir tas ic kaip resiveris ishtempines visa procesa.

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Toyotamk5 wrote:Tai va nusprendziau vandenini interculeri pakeisti oriniu
Kodel?
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Conan wrote:
Toyotamk5 wrote:Tai va nusprendziau vandenini interculeri pakeisti oriniu
Kodel?
Galvoju kad orinis bus efektyvesnis. Beto turbina nebe stock ir padidintas slegis.
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Toyotamk5 wrote:Galvoju kad orinis bus efektyvesnis
Blogai galvoji :)
Toyotamk5 wrote:Beto turbina nebe stock ir padidintas slegis
ST205 turbas yra minor upgrade. Vazinejau su tokia ir su tokiu slegiu - uztenka gamyklinio IC. Iki 350 AG nera ka prie jo lysti. Jei labai norisi kazka padaryti, gali nebent termoizoliacija apklijuoti is apacios. Kitas etapas - pastovus vandens pompos darbas.
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