Modlist: Nissan 200SX rS13 SR'ed

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tai nera ka komentuoti, viskas priklauso nuo noru...jeigu geriau, kad torkas paciam virsuj ( pvz del slydimo stiliaus), tada ok....tokia kreive paziurejus iskart mintis, kad turbos karsta dalis furine, arba velenai atmosferiniai su dideliu overlapu arba labai nusuktas/velyvas degimas - motoras neefektyviai dirba low/mid range...gal tiesiog pagal norus sumapino/tunino motor? :)

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SR20DE wrote:tai nera ka komentuoti, viskas priklauso nuo noru...jeigu geriau, kad torkas paciam virsuj ( pvz del slydimo stiliaus), tada ok....tokia kreive paziurejus iskart mintis, kad turbos karsta dalis furine, arba velenai atmosferiniai su dideliu overlapu arba labai nusuktas/velyvas degimas - motoras neefektyviai dirba low/mid range...gal tiesiog pagal norus sumapino/tunino motor? :)
tai kad labai nepataikei. Karsta LABAI maza, veleneliai konservatyvus, degimas gan ankstyvas, nors tiesa sakant manau, kad dar resurso yra. O tuninau pats :) As noreciau, kad daugiau torko butu mid range, bet nezinau kaip ta padaryt.
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Komentuoti AG kreives nera prasmes. Is jos vizualiai nedaug matosi beto AG yra isskaiciuojama. Matematiskai galima nesudetingai apskaiciuoti rezultatus dar ne ant stendo nesukus. (jei zinomi variklio parametrai). Butinas tikslus Turbinos MAP.
Pagal uzsiputima salta dalis pas tave tikrai nemazesne negu 63 A/R. Taciau salta puse vidutiniams sukiams per didele. Cia labiau drag'ine kreive.

Flow to HP = lbs/min*9,5=...Hp
AG= Nm*rpm/7130

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tai setupa as maciau...parasiau tiesiog kas lemia :)
Gal tiesiog matavimas su didele paklaida pamelavo torko pika? Vaziuojant turi jaustis, kada kickin'a vtecas :lol:

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Diiego 222 wrote:Komentuoti AG kreives nera prasmes. Is jos vizualiai nedaug matosi beto AG yra isskaiciuojama. Matematiskai galima nesudetingai apskaiciuoti rezultatus dar ne ant stendo nesukus. (jei zinomi variklio parametrai). Butinas tikslus Turbinos MAP.
Pagal uzsiputima salta dalis pas tave tikrai nemazesne negu 63 A/R. Taciau salta puse vidutiniams sukiams per didele. Cia labiau drag'ine kreive.

Flow to HP = lbs/min*9,5=...Hp
AG= Nm*rpm/7130
taip, salta didele. Hx35 salta puse, Compressor inducer 56mm (turbut). Pasak google tai 0.89 a/r. Karsta puse 0.48a/r.
Jeigu butu galima turbina nusipirkt taip kaip maximoj saldainiu, tai pasirinkimas gal ir ne toks butu :)
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na vistiek sakyciau, kad sukimo momentas net tokiai turbinai pakankamai toli... kitas dalykas - kada uzsipucia ji? negi taip pat velai kaip sukimo momento pikas? :)

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Mano kreivės kalnelis buvo labai panašiai kai stendas nesugebėjo apkraut turbos.
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aurissan wrote:Mano kreivės kalnelis buvo labai panašiai kai stendas nesugebėjo apkraut turbos.
Del apkrovos tai labai teisingai pastebeta - ant stendo daug mazesne apkrova nei vaziuojant gatvej.
Uzsipucia tarkim panasiai apie 1bar turiu prie 4krpm (isskyrus pirmus du begius). Ir visas vteco :D kickas 4,5-6krpm diapazone.
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Kiek rpm suki max? Nes jei diapazonas 4.5-6k, tai sakyciau, kad siauras labai. Turetu buti nelabai smagus vaziavimas - arkliai yra, bet ju panaudojimas per trumpas laike.

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Airbog wrote:Kiek rpm suki max? Nes jei diapazonas 4.5-6k, tai sakyciau, kad siauras labai. Turetu buti nelabai smagus vaziavimas - arkliai yra, bet ju panaudojimas per trumpas laike.
suku ar tai 7500 ar tai 7600. Masina iki pat ribotuvo visa laika tolygiai begejasi ir nesijaucia jokio galios kritimo (iskaitant ir 6th gear :twisted: ) Tik sakau, kad tas kickas su sikna, geriausiai jauciasi tame diapazone (kai per maziausia rpm amplitude / didziausias nm prieaugis).
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UNeX wrote:
SR20DE wrote:tai nera ka komentuoti, viskas priklauso nuo noru...jeigu geriau, kad torkas paciam virsuj ( pvz del slydimo stiliaus), tada ok....tokia kreive paziurejus iskart mintis, kad turbos karsta dalis furine, arba velenai atmosferiniai su dideliu overlapu arba labai nusuktas/velyvas degimas - motoras neefektyviai dirba low/mid range...gal tiesiog pagal norus sumapino/tunino motor? :)
tai kad labai nepataikei. Karsta LABAI maza, veleneliai konservatyvus, degimas gan ankstyvas, nors tiesa sakant manau, kad dar resurso yra. O tuninau pats :) As noreciau, kad daugiau torko butu mid range, bet nezinau kaip ta padaryt.
As buciau spejes taip pat, kaip SR20DE...
Bet jei karsta puse ne per didele, ir usiputineja pakankamai velai, tai greiciausiai reiskia, kad... ji per maza :)

Kokie sparnuociu skersmenys (ir trimai) karstos ir siauros pusiu?
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teoriskai HX35 7-blade:
A/R- 0.89
Compressor inducer- 56mm
Compressor exducer- 76mm
Compressor trim- 54
Turbine inducer- 69.5mm
Turbine exducer- 60mm
Turbine trim- 75

bet karstos puses kriaukle uzdeta garrett 0.48 a/r. Kadangi ne pagal mano uzsakyma daryta, tai kaip ten uzdeta ir kas daryta - nieko nezinau.

p.s. kodel tu forume? :)
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Kad zinai... 7cm skersmens 75 trim ismetimo sparnuote ant 2l variklio nepasakyciau, kad yra maza. Jei sparnuote didele, tai maza kriaukle nieko stebuklingo nepakeis. Isvis nereik perdaug fiksuotis i kriaukles A/R - jis reiksmingas yra tik jei lygini dvi vienodas ~ turbinas.

Vansi atsizvelgiant i turbina viskas ten normaliai su kreive.


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taip pat greitu metu bus ir naujos kreives :wink:
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Jau tu pradek viska lupt is to kuzavo greiciau :D arba 'primusk' tu ji kaip missile ;)
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doggy wrote: Jau tu pradek viska lupt is to kuzavo greiciau :D arba 'primusk' tu ji kaip missile ;)
cia galima sakyti buvo paskutiniai rimtesni darbai variklio skyriuje, kad butu op op ir viskas :)
dabar mintys sukasi ka reiktu pakaboje pasiruost/pasikeist, kaip sakant "za adno" :)
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Kokia sia Turbina :?: Holset HX30, 35 ???
Kodel toks pasirinkimas. Kaina ar dar kas. Borg warner S200 and SR'o turetu gerai pusti...

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Diiego 222 wrote:Kokia sia Turbina :?: Holset HX30, 35 ???
Kodel toks pasirinkimas. Kaina ar dar kas. Borg warner S200 and SR'o turetu gerai pusti...
nei viena, nei kita :) cia hx32.
Kodel toks pasirinkimas? Todel, kad teoriskai isskaiciavau kokia turbina turetu but atitinkanti mano poreikiams ir kreivei, kuria noriu isgaut, ir kadangi pavyko gaut 98% tai ko man reikejo, todel toks pasirinkimas :) Gaila, kad sia savaite nespesiu sumapint, tai rezultatas lieka neaiskus, bet manau kita savaite paaiskes kiek stipriai suklydau skaiciuodamas :D
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UNeX wrote:cia hx32.
O nuo ko ją nurovei ?
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Kent wrote:
UNeX wrote:cia hx32.
O nuo ko ją nurovei ?
Nei nuo nieko. Nauja ji.
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su salyga, kad tema labai negyva, tai pasidalinu trumpu video kaip darem naujo turbako fine-tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61m8IgUSb7o
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mazytis update'as:
pasikeitus turbakui ir ismetimo kolikui buvo permapinta ir prasukta ant stendo. Rezultatas toks, kad iki 5krpm kreive lygiai tokia pat, tik kad viskas 500rpm anksciau, o nuo 5krpm kreive pradeda kilt siek tiek staciau nei pries tai buvo. Vienas is sukimu parode ~470ag (prie 7krpm, nors sukta buvo iki 7,4krpm, o as pamirsau, kad stendas skaiciuoja kas 500rpm) ir 510nm su beveik 1.4bar boosto ant e85 kuro. Veliau buvo siek tiek pakoreguota, kad kreive butu plokstesne ir virsuj tureciau maziau, o ir beto tai padejo turet geresni midrange'a.
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pas visus cia projektai juda, reikia ir man atsinaujint :)
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Detaliu rezervacija negalima, nebent kazkas noretu viso variklio tokio, kaip jis dabar surinktas. Kol kas kuriasi, vaziuoja. Price list'as kita savaite.
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